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The Curious Case of Issue Number 1507 |
Posted by: Spode - 05-08-2024, 06:45 PM - Forum: General Discussion
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This forum post contains spoilers for NationStates Issues!
Issue Number 1507, "Busting to Go" is one of the weirdest issues in NationStates. To all appearances, it's a normal issue about filibusters, but it has one interestingly out of place option- The last option.
Quote:“Chaps, this IS the system working, don’t you see?” explains an elder statesman, who has woken from a short nap, and is still wearing his nightcap. “The mechanisms of democracy have tangled the powers-that-be into blissful inaction, and befuddled the populace beneath a barrage of bureaucratic bewitchery. Politics drags on, the entire process of government is kicked to the long grass, and the country prospers because old fools like us don’t try to run things. Just sit back, listen, relax. The decades will fly by, and before you know it you’ll be retiring to the quango, cushy corporate advisory role or tropical island of your choice.” A black cat walks past and for a moment you experience a weird sense of déjà vu.
If you choose this, nothing will happen. No stat effects whatsoever. And you might think that the issue has been resolved. Until... It reappears. NationStates has some hidden and half-hidden flags on what issue to give to any nation at a given time, and issue 1507 is unique in that it can tick a hidden flag to give you the same issue. Again and again. Guaranteed. I have answered this issue twice, and still have it as an issue (where I am now storing it like a particularly hazardous SCP).
I think this issue is particularly comedic, because if you just go along with it and choose the option to ignore the filibuster, this issue will recur over and over again and prevent you from getting other government business done. Just like the filibuster.
So thanks to the NS issues editors who gave us this, and the techies for making it work.
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8th Anniversary Awards - Winners |
Posted by: gagium - 04-17-2024, 06:40 PM - Forum: Mirotvorets Plaza
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8th Anniversary Awards
Awards Ceremony
The following awards were awarded to individuals based on the ballots the community cast for the 8th Anniversary Awards. 19 members in total cast ballots for the Anniversary Awards, and all winners were first nominated for their respective awards on the nominations thread. All graphics below were produced by Not Gagium and the League & Concord Department of Culture.
Roleplayer of the Year Award
Awarded to Monsilva.
Awarded to the individual who has shown the most dedication to worldbuilding and roleplay over the past year.
LDF Member of the Year Award
Awarded to The Eltran.
Awarded to the individual who has shown the most dedication to participating in the LDF over the past year. LDF officers are not included (eligible) for this award.
Politician of the Year Award
Awarded to Spode Humbled Minions / Mechanocracy.
Awarded to the individual who has shown the most dedication to regional government over the past year.
Newcomer of the Year Award
Awarded to Piffer / Araucarlia.
Awarded to the most dedicated individual who joined the community within the past year.
Terraconserva Award
Awarded to Monsilva, New Illyricum, and Creeperopolis.
Awarded to three individuals who have been active in roleplay over the past year.
LDF Award
Awarded to Anjan Kloss (Kivu), Kanjuura, and The Eltran.
Awarded to three individuals who have been active in the LDF over the past year.
Welcomer Award
Awarded to Anjan Kloss (Kivu).
Awarded to an individual who has gone out of their way to help newcomers get involved in the community.
Quote of the Year Award
Awarded to Council of Feathers for his quote, "Intrusive thoughts have reminded me that my current state of absolute power allows me to turn Concord into milk ... The region would in mere seconds advance the equivalent of many years if that were to happen. But alas, rules are rules."
Awarded to an individual to which a particularly memorable quote from the past year can be attributed to.
The following two awards were not featured on the ballot, and were awarded based on specific accomplishments in the community.
Top Recruiter Award
Awarded to Anjan Kloss (Kivu) - 2,555 recruiting hours since 20 February 2023
Awarded to the individual who has accumulated the most recruiting hours over the past year.
Worldbuilding Competition Award
Awarded to Gjorka - Two First Place Finishes
Awarded to the individual who has performed the best in the Terraconserva Worldbuilding Competition, ran by Creeperopolis and Spode Humbled Minions on behalf of the Department of Culture.
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How resilient are we against platform failure? |
Posted by: Spode - 04-16-2024, 03:40 PM - Forum: General Discussion
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"If civilization sinks tomorrow, which of us would be sunk?"
I'm going to expand on this post later, but I think Christmas and this most recent failure of NS raises the question of what we do when it's no longer around. We're current an NS community, and that unfortunately means that if NS ceases to exist, a core component of our community just ceases to exist- In particular, our ability to find new community members. Not good. Similarly, if Discord ever runs out of money (a real possibility considering that, according to most sources, it's running at a loss on other venture capitalist ghoul money) then substantial amounts of regional history would be lost forever. Also not good.
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I don't know what we should do about this, but it's something to keep in mind.
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[Discussion] Governmental Reform |
Posted by: im_a_waffle1 - 04-11-2024, 03:28 AM - Forum: Council of the Republic
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How much have you changed in five years? I've changed a lot. The League has, too. It changed its name- from the League of Conservative Nations to simply the League. It added a new region in the form of Concord, showing the world that our community, our region, can hold its ground in multiple places at once while still being able to have one of if not the largest defender military on NS. It has grown from hovering just around 100 nations to over 1300! It went from being a GP pariah to one of the most influential regions in all of GP. It underwent huge moderation reforms, purging bad actors and making the region shine cleaner than ever. It has a massively active community, challenging even feeders in the number of people who choose to call our community their home.
Why, then, has our Constitution not changed? By my count, the Constitution has been amended only once by a Council vote, and it was just for the regional move from LCN to the League (Also the addition of Concord and the removal of the Court(?), but these appear to have not been voted on by the Council). This is compounded by the fact that our Constitution is incredibly short and leaves many things up for interpretation- for example, the Speaker has no real powers, only being granted the vague role of "encouraging and facilitating improvements in regional legislation" which makes the position of Speaker seem more ceremonial than anything. It seems to me that this was more of a transitional Constitution, and that the government of the League for the last five years has just been transitional.
I'm not arguing for the full democratization of the League. Instead, what I envision is similar to a semi-constitutional monarchy like Monaco, where the monarch- in this case, the Consulate- retains some government power, but other power is delegated to other bodies and the legislature. I, personally, do not like investing too much power into a small group of people- it creates too much risk for disaster, especially if one or more people in the group are volatile- so I may be more inclined to give less power to the Consulate and more power to an elected head of government and legislature. Although, that's all up for discussion- everything is, that's why I made this thread.
I'd like to put out some major points of discussion and my opinions:
The Consulate
The Consulate should remain as it is- a group of three, led by a Chief Consul. However, my idea is to strip away some of its powers. Currently, the Consulate receives virtually unchecked power under Article 2, Section 2.I of the current Constitution which states, "The Consulate shall use their authority to facilitate regional development and progress." What "regional development and progress" is isn't defined, meaning the Consulate can do virtually anything under the guise of regional development. This is made worse by the fact that the Council has no way to stop the Consulate from doing something, as the Consulate could simply veto anything the Council passes under Article 2, Section 2.IV- "The Consulate maintains veto rights over the Council of the Republic in dire situations..." What are "dire situations?" The Constitution does go on to provide examples, like "Constitutional questionability" and "regional security," but those are just examples and "dire situations" could mean anything, such as the perpetual state of war we are in. After all, the reasoning is as simple as "we are in war, we need to commandeer the region and rule by decree."
Instead, the Consulate should have limited veto powers. The Council should be able to override Consulate veto. In addition, I would propose adding "Consulate Orders" or some other, better name which are immediately effective orders issued by the Consulate that can be struck down by the Council at any time.
The Speaker
The Speaker has barely any legal definition other than what I mentioned earlier. Instead of what we have now, I propose having an elected Speaker that serves as a head of government. They share the executive with the Consulate. The Speaker appoints cabinet members or ministers or whatever we want to call them to run departments or ministries, like we have now. So, instead of having a law defining the Department of Culture like we have now, a Speaker will choose if they want to have a Department of Culture and then appoints whoever they see fit for the job.
The Council
Nominations are stupid and bad and we should get rid of them. What I propose instead is an application system, similar to citizenship, where someone applies to be a Council Delegate and then they are either approved or not. Instead of using the nominations as a kind of de facto activity check, we could instead have an actual activity check at the end of every month or every other month and anyone who hasn't voted in at least half the votes in an activity check period (or CTEs or left or any other thing that would cause them to be ineligible) gets removed and will have to reapply.
In addition, we need to have some kind of Council clerk or something who updates the law archive on the forums and on the wiki and runs votes. In general, they would just manage the day-to-day operations of the Council instead of just tacking that responsibility onto the Consulate. I'm thinking something like what TSP has where the clerk would be voted in and then would serve until resignation or ineligibility, and they could appoint deputies who would help with their duties. The clerk could also manage Council Delegate applications as anyone who goes that far should have already been thoroughly vetted during their citizen application.
Some minor points I'd also like to address in a potential new Constitution (and associated new laws):- Defining the DSB as a legal institution. Right now it just kind of "exists" with no legal basis and it would be nice to fix that.
- WA Delegates. I think the best way to handle this is to have the Delegate of the League be a specific Consul and the Delegate of Concord just be anyone on the DSB. We could always have appointed Delegates for Concord, but I think with the nature of the frontier it may just be easier to allow either Spode, Fandom, or Neo to be Delegate at any given time. The status quo works too, though.
- Generally we just need to elaborate on more things and give specifics. The current Constitution feels incredibly rushed.
- We should have a Criminal Code.
- The judiciary: No. Although that doesn't necessarily mean the status quo is good, either. An idea I came up with was the concept of the "legislative court," where the Speaker, a Consul, or perhaps a Chief Justice (although I don't like this) appoints three Council Delegates (who are willing to participate and do not have a conflict of interest) to a jury, which hears the case and then comes up with an opinion. This seems to me as the best way to take the responsibility off of the Consulate while not having an actual court.
- The Council should be perpetually convened, and there should be a specific way to bring a proposed bill to a vote, e.g. a seconded motion after a bit of time.
- A motion of no confidence by the Council against the Speaker, the Consulate, or a specific Consul could also be added. We could also add a way to recall the clerk or whatever we decide to call it.
- New Consuls should be approved by the Council.
- Anything else I'm forgetting.
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The League and Concord builds a tower |
Posted by: Main Page - 04-10-2024, 03:52 PM - Forum: Spam Games
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rules:
1. obviously stay within the community guidelines
2. you can react, just don't forget /skipme
3. you may say /stillme but you MUST provide a reason
I'll start.
Floor 1/foyer: Shooting range with a target and ball you can shoot around to practice/move, a rail so you can do tricks, and a dash track so you can zoom around. there is water surrounding the area with the features, and there is the exit door and the elevator on the back and front ends on the practice island.
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CRL 38 – Council Nomination Acceptance Act |
Posted by: Creeperopolis - 04-10-2024, 03:45 AM - Forum: Laws and Motions
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Council Nomination Acceptance Act
Presented by: Not Gagium
Preamble:
Noting the lenient state of Council nominations, facilitating the addition of inactive and/or unknowing members to be nominated and appointed to the Council of the Republic,
Recognizing the benefits of ensuring that those serving on the Council are able to be active enough to carry out their basic duties,
THE LEAGUE GOVERNMENT DECLARES:
Prospective members of the Council of the Republic who have gained three nominations shall be required to verbally accept their nomination in order to reach quorum for their nomination.
Nominees who do not verbally accept their nominations by the end of the nomination cycle will not be eligible to serve on the upcoming Council.
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CRL 37 – The Futile Laws Act |
Posted by: Creeperopolis - 04-10-2024, 03:35 AM - Forum: Laws and Motions
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The Futile Laws Act
Presented by: Montcrabe
Preamble:
RECOGNIZING the existence of outdated legislation in the League,
EXPRESSING the need for all legislation to be up-to-date, and the impracticality of keeping ineffectual legislation as active,
WORRIED at a lack of action from previous rounds of delegates,
URGING council delegates to work on new pieces of legislation to address any problems currently faced by the League,
NOTING the lack of benefit or use of CRL 14 (An Act to Regulate the Private Market), given the present lack of an institution system in the League,
ADDITIONALLY NOTING the lack of benefit or use of CRL 0 (An Act to Create a New Government Puppet), given the use of the forums,
THE LEAGUE GOVERNMENT DECLARES:
ENACTS the "Futile Laws Act by Goobdo" (FLAG), to be recalled in the future in repealing impractical pieces of legislation in the League & Concord:
- CRL 14 is to be struck as null and void.
- CRL 14 is to be repealed.
- CRL 0 is to be struck as null and void.
- CRL 0 is to be repealed.
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CRL 36 – Amendment to CRL 29 |
Posted by: Creeperopolis - 04-10-2024, 03:30 AM - Forum: Laws and Motions
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Amendment to CRL 29
Presented by: Consulate of the Republic
Preamble:
THE LEAGUE GOVERNMENT DECLARES:
The following shall be added as a clause to Council of the Republic Law 29 - Process on Prohibiting Hostile Actors from the Republic as the final clause in Section One.
The Consulate may provide and rescind exemptions to individuals impacted by prohibitions imposed on organizations at their discretion. Said exemptions will be communicated to the individuals impacted.
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Backroom Politics Sign-Ups - 8th Anniversary Festival |
Posted by: gagium - 04-07-2024, 10:33 PM - Forum: Mirotvorets Plaza
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Backroom Politics - Information and Sign-Ups
The League and Concord - 8th Anniversary Festival
Introduction and Plot
As a member nation of the League and Concord Alliance, an alliance that transcends time and space to connect nations across the multiverse, you're invited to send a delegate to the Prosperity Summit, an annual meeting between nations of TL&C designed to promote trade and peace between its member states. This is made possible thanks to the Rodier-Akhalaia Protocol Warp, an experimental teleportation device created by scientists in Gagium. After several years of research and testing, the first Warp system has finally been completed, allowing nations across the multiverse to send their delegates to the Prosperity Summit, hosted in the Gagian city of Fort-Anfree!
However, all is not as it seems. While development of the Rodier-Akhalaia Protocol Warp was kept a secret, the development of such an advanced technology quickly attracted unwanted attention. Hackers quickly discovered a flaw in the technology - while it was intended to teleport individuals from anywhere to a specific point, it could also be hacked into to teleport a concentrated group of people - for example, those attending the Prosperity Summit - to pretty much anywhere in the multiverse. With this in mind, mysterious forces working in the shadows labored tirelessly to set up a trap for the Prosperity Summit's delegates. They created a compound that was believed to be impossible to escape from, filled with mystery, danger, cosmic horrors, and even...humor?
And thus, the scene for the 1st Annual Prosperity Summit was set. One by one, delegates from across the League and Concord arrived, completely unaware of the trials they would be put through in order to have even a chance of returning to their home nations safely.
Sign-Up Format
Name:
Age:
Nationality:
Government Title (or Occupation/Rank):
Bio (Can be as short or as long as you want):
Appearance (Description or Image, optional):
Rules:
- No godmodding or metagaming. Considering many of us may be unfamiliar with how character-based roleplay operates, I expect there to be some hiccups or confusion, but you are expected to roleplay as if you're in the shoes of your character (i.e. no knowing stuff that your character wouldn't know, don't do anything too overpowered, etc.)
- This roleplay isn't expected to be 100% realistic and you're allowed to apply with a character that wouldn't work in a roleplay like Terraconserva. That being said, you will be rejected if you apply with a character that's overpowered, and you will be removed from the roleplay if you can't follow rules consistently.
- As this roleplay will primarily be taking place on discord, it is subject to all the server rules. Please refrain from posting anything too innappropriate.
- Be respectful to all other roleplayers and, most importantly, have fun!
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NOMINATIONS - 8th Anniversary Awards |
Posted by: gagium - 04-05-2024, 06:38 PM - Forum: Mirotvorets Plaza
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8th Anniversary Awards
The League and Concord
Nominations Thread
Welcome to the Nominations Thread for the 8th Anniversary Awards! Fill out the following template to nominate individuals (or, for quote of the year, a specific quote - feel free to attach an image or discord link) for their respective awards. Note that you can nominate people for as few or as many awards as you want, and you can nominate up to two individuals for each award (this applies to the Terraconserva and LDF Awards).
NOTE: LDF officers are not eligible for LDF Member of the Year.
View the award descriptions here!
Roleplayer of the Year:
LDF Member of the Year:
Politician of the Year:
Newcomer of the Year:
Terraconserva Award:
LDF Award:
Welcomer Award:
Quote of the Year:
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